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I've noticed some instances of the phrasal "he or she" being used in this wiki. It may be worth swapping those instances for the epicene "they" instead, as it is more inclusive, up-to-date and certainly less clunky to read out loud. The Arachnid page is a good example here, since it currently uses the combined "he or she" and the plural "they". The 'Unnamed previous captain' entry in the Minor USS Orville characters category is also an example.
I would make an edit myself, but I am unfamiliar with the standards of this wiki and thus am writing this post instead.
Hello Orville Wiki! I'm the new wiki representative assigned to your community by Fandom. Feel free to reach out if you have any support requests of any kind!
Hello everyone. Now that Season 3 is out, we need to add a new moderator to assist with running The Orville Wiki. I propose ValyrianWildfire. S/he has been an editor here since 2018, and has consistently added new photos and information to the Wiki since then. I open the floor for community feedback.
Hello all you editors out there, we need to talk about grammar. Specifically, we need to talk about use of present and past tense in our articles.
Long ago in late 2017/early 2018, grammar rules were established through a community consensus that articles would be written in the following tenses:
Past tense for all events that happen before what occurs in an episode.
Present tense for all events in an episode.
Future tense for all events in and outside an episode that occur in the future.
For Season 1, that worked fairly well, albeit with a few minor hiccups. Nearly all the episodes brought up events in an easily consumable fashion. The only tricky periods were from Pria, in the 29th century, and Mad Idolatry, which involves a world in a universe that ages 700 years to our 11 days. Regardless, The Orville Wiki got through it and things looked good.
I believe that is no longer the case.
Now, to be clear, I'm not saying that our standards are grammatically incorrect. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm also not saying the system is totally broken. No, we are still able to write our articles and present information.
What I'm saying is that the order of events introduced in Season 2 and Season 1.5 now convolute the timeline to the point where writers and editors here no longer can use our writing standards to figure out which tense to use. That raises a bigger problem where people are writing in multiple tenses that are "correct" by our standards but do not agree with each other, and it makes the articles confusing for readers.
For example: s02e05 All the World is Birthday Cake has a cold opening set in the year 2415, four years before the show begins, but the rest of the episode is set in 2420. When we write about that episode's cold opening in the present tense, we run into a problem. When other episodes bring up facts set in 2415, we have to use past tense (because it happened before the episode). So now we are using present and past tense for the same year.
The quick fix for this has been that I've edited articles where I find them to make everything addressing the year 2415 in past tense. That's not found in our community writing standards, but it's a little bit of duct tape that work.
Now, once we get into Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow and The Road Not Taken, which introduce multiple, complex, and alternative timelines over a span of seven years (!) the present-past-future tense guidelines become so muddled that it's a Gordian knot for the reader. Completely confusing, even if grammatically perfect.
My proposal: Let's make everything past tense except episode pages will use present tense in the synopsis (at the top of the article) and in Plot.
(Edited by UnionPointDropout)
<p>guys, i have added the Page for the Moclan Battlecruiser, i will add more ships</p><p>
</p><p>my list of ships</p><p>Moclan Battlecruiser</p><p>Moclan Transport</p><p>Moclan Ship</p><p>Leviathan Heavy cruiser</p><p>Colossus Class</p><p>Cruiser Class (Union)</p><p>Science Class </p><p>Explorer A</p><p>Explorer B</p><p>Fighter Class</p>
</p><p>my list of ships</p><p>Moclan Battlecruiser</p><p>Moclan Transport</p><p>Moclan Ship</p><p>Leviathan Heavy cruiser</p><p>Colossus Class</p><p>Cruiser Class (Union)</p><p>Science Class </p><p>Explorer A</p><p>Explorer B</p><p>Fighter Class</p>
<p>They should, since its a important part of the orville and its basically the plot for a few episodes of the orville.</p><p>(Also im new here, so hi.)</p>
<p>Hello,</p><p>
</p><p>The following is a discussion thread for how we should overhaul the Wiki's current policy for page creation as discussed in the Manual of Style. As of right now the majority of users and even staff on the Wiki don't have a clear understanding of what is and isn't allowed, or what the we should strive to create. </p><p>
</p><p>In order to move forward our community must come together for a Consensus and discuss what kind of pages will and won't be allowed on the Orville Wiki. </p><p>
</p><p>With that said, this is not designed to be a simple vote but rather a discussion thread for how to improve the Wiki and its page creation standards. Please respect this by giving evidence and reasons for any and all positions that are supported here. </p><p>
</p><p>Thank you. </p>
</p><p>The following is a discussion thread for how we should overhaul the Wiki's current policy for page creation as discussed in the Manual of Style. As of right now the majority of users and even staff on the Wiki don't have a clear understanding of what is and isn't allowed, or what the we should strive to create. </p><p>
</p><p>In order to move forward our community must come together for a Consensus and discuss what kind of pages will and won't be allowed on the Orville Wiki. </p><p>
</p><p>With that said, this is not designed to be a simple vote but rather a discussion thread for how to improve the Wiki and its page creation standards. Please respect this by giving evidence and reasons for any and all positions that are supported here. </p><p>
</p><p>Thank you. </p>
<p>Suggestion: Assess and possibly change how we represent species in the first and foremost image, that of the infobox. Of course, a good deal of species are represented by a single individual so there is not much alternative there, but what I am focusing on here is the "Big Four" (Humans, Moclans, Xelayans, Krill).</p><p>
</p><p>As it stands now, the Big Four are represented by the following basic images.</p><p>Human: A promotional image of Ed Mercer.</p><p>Moclan: A promotional image of Bortus.</p><p>Xelayan: A promotional image of Alara Kitan.</p><p>NOTE: Pretty much the same images are used on the respective character pages. As Season 1 promotional images, they could perhaps be replaced with newer images, but that's another matter.</p><p>Krill: A trio of soldiers from ''Old Wounds''. If I remember correctly, the image is infact the very first glimpse of the Krill seen in the initial trailer. With that in mind, Krill may be in most need of a change, depending on how you look at it.</p><p>
</p><p>The point I am trying to make is, perhaps it would be more prudent to replace the existing images with more diverse views of the respective species. I would welcome thoughts on this topic as I myself am not sure exactly how to proceed. While I, for one, would like to see more diverse representative images, I do understand that a point could be made to retain the existing images as they appear; especially in the case of Moclan and Xelayan since their images, as with the vast majority of species pages, fulfill a simple purpose in that they feature a single example of the race, clearly displaying their external differences from humans. In any case, I have already prepared several candidates for each.</p><p>
</p><p><gallery></p><p>Human team.jpg</p><p>Humans on bridge.jpg</p><p>Witnessing Moclus.jpg</p><p></gallery></p><p>
</p><p>My ideal image for humans would have all five main characters (Ed, Kelly, Gordon, John and Claire).</p><p>1. A cropped promotional image from ''Mad Idolatry'', featuring Kelly, Ed, John, and Gordon (excluding Alara). A very good image as all four are in clear view, though Dr. Finn is absent.</p><p>2. A cropped screenshot from ''Old Wounds'', featuring Ed, Kelly, Gordon, John, Claire, and Dr. Aronov. Pro: All five characters featured as well as a guest. Con: Uneven focus.</p><p>3. A screenshot from ''About a Girl'' featuring all five of our humans as well as Alara. Pro: All five main characters clearly shown. Con: With all due respect to Alara, she would not belong in the profile for humans, but her appearance in this image can easily be handwaved in the caption.</p><p>
</p><p><gallery></p><p>Moclan fam.jpg</p><p>Moclans exclaiming Ja'loja.jpg</p><p>Bortus fam dinner.jpg</p><p>Moclan Tribunal Jury.jpg</p><p></gallery></p><p>1. Celebrating Bortus' birthday. While this would be a "nice" image to use, one must ask if the use of a such "happy families" image would be appropriate/accurate here considering the various in-universe controversies regarding the Moclans and the friction between Bortus and Klyden.</p><p>2. Klyden, Topa, and two other Moclans celebrating Bortus' Ja'loja. Pro: Features Moclans partaking in one of their traditional rituals. Con: No Bortus.</p><p>3. Bortus' family at the dinner table. An alternative, perhaps more "real" look at the family.</p><p>4. The Moclan tribunal. Pro: Reflects the male-dominated Moclus. Con: No Bortus or family.</p><p>
</p><p><gallery></p><p>Kitan family.jpg</p><p>Kitan family photo.jpg</p><p></gallery></p><p>1. The assembled Kitan family (while held at gunpoint by the Borrins).</p><p>2. Alara's happy family photo. Pro: Depending on how you look at it (in contrast to the Moclan family question above), featuring them here may be more appropriate than the former image, where their distress is visible. Con: Neither main character (Alara or Talla) is visible (at least in their recognizable form).</p><p>
</p><p><gallery></p><p>Krill rise.jpg</p><p>Krill church.jpg</p><p>Sazeron and Haros.jpg</p><p>Krill 2.04.jpg</p><p>Krill-soldier.jpg</p><p></gallery></p><p>
</p><p>1. Krill at service (including both males and females (including Telaya, the most prolific Krill character), as well as "Chris and Devon").</p><p>2. Complete Krill audience. Pro: Most diverse (features both genders, both soldiers and religious officials, and notable characters. Con: Perhaps this gathering may be too large.</p><p>3. Promotional image of High Priest Sazeron and Captain Haros. Pro: Features two notable characters with distinct positions. Con: No Telaya.</p><p>4. Krill captain and two soldiers as seen in 2x04. Pro: A fine representation of the Krill as "bad guys". Con: No Telaya, and perhaps it would not do ''The Orville'' justice to want to present the Krill as simply "baddies". </p><p>5. The Krill soldier in the shuttle from ''Old Wounds''. (Represents a single individual as with the current state of the human, Moclan and Xelayan articles.)</p><p>
</p><p>In any case, some of these candidate images would fit well on their respective pages should they be deemed unworthy of the infobox.</p><p>
</p><p>NOTE: Though a major species, Kaylon are as yet only represented by Isaac. However, as we may well be visiting the planet later on in Season 2, we may potentially have a new image for the Kaylon on our hands as well.</p>
</p><p>As it stands now, the Big Four are represented by the following basic images.</p><p>Human: A promotional image of Ed Mercer.</p><p>Moclan: A promotional image of Bortus.</p><p>Xelayan: A promotional image of Alara Kitan.</p><p>NOTE: Pretty much the same images are used on the respective character pages. As Season 1 promotional images, they could perhaps be replaced with newer images, but that's another matter.</p><p>Krill: A trio of soldiers from ''Old Wounds''. If I remember correctly, the image is infact the very first glimpse of the Krill seen in the initial trailer. With that in mind, Krill may be in most need of a change, depending on how you look at it.</p><p>
</p><p>The point I am trying to make is, perhaps it would be more prudent to replace the existing images with more diverse views of the respective species. I would welcome thoughts on this topic as I myself am not sure exactly how to proceed. While I, for one, would like to see more diverse representative images, I do understand that a point could be made to retain the existing images as they appear; especially in the case of Moclan and Xelayan since their images, as with the vast majority of species pages, fulfill a simple purpose in that they feature a single example of the race, clearly displaying their external differences from humans. In any case, I have already prepared several candidates for each.</p><p>
</p><p><gallery></p><p>Human team.jpg</p><p>Humans on bridge.jpg</p><p>Witnessing Moclus.jpg</p><p></gallery></p><p>
</p><p>My ideal image for humans would have all five main characters (Ed, Kelly, Gordon, John and Claire).</p><p>1. A cropped promotional image from ''Mad Idolatry'', featuring Kelly, Ed, John, and Gordon (excluding Alara). A very good image as all four are in clear view, though Dr. Finn is absent.</p><p>2. A cropped screenshot from ''Old Wounds'', featuring Ed, Kelly, Gordon, John, Claire, and Dr. Aronov. Pro: All five characters featured as well as a guest. Con: Uneven focus.</p><p>3. A screenshot from ''About a Girl'' featuring all five of our humans as well as Alara. Pro: All five main characters clearly shown. Con: With all due respect to Alara, she would not belong in the profile for humans, but her appearance in this image can easily be handwaved in the caption.</p><p>
</p><p><gallery></p><p>Moclan fam.jpg</p><p>Moclans exclaiming Ja'loja.jpg</p><p>Bortus fam dinner.jpg</p><p>Moclan Tribunal Jury.jpg</p><p></gallery></p><p>1. Celebrating Bortus' birthday. While this would be a "nice" image to use, one must ask if the use of a such "happy families" image would be appropriate/accurate here considering the various in-universe controversies regarding the Moclans and the friction between Bortus and Klyden.</p><p>2. Klyden, Topa, and two other Moclans celebrating Bortus' Ja'loja. Pro: Features Moclans partaking in one of their traditional rituals. Con: No Bortus.</p><p>3. Bortus' family at the dinner table. An alternative, perhaps more "real" look at the family.</p><p>4. The Moclan tribunal. Pro: Reflects the male-dominated Moclus. Con: No Bortus or family.</p><p>
</p><p><gallery></p><p>Kitan family.jpg</p><p>Kitan family photo.jpg</p><p></gallery></p><p>1. The assembled Kitan family (while held at gunpoint by the Borrins).</p><p>2. Alara's happy family photo. Pro: Depending on how you look at it (in contrast to the Moclan family question above), featuring them here may be more appropriate than the former image, where their distress is visible. Con: Neither main character (Alara or Talla) is visible (at least in their recognizable form).</p><p>
</p><p><gallery></p><p>Krill rise.jpg</p><p>Krill church.jpg</p><p>Sazeron and Haros.jpg</p><p>Krill 2.04.jpg</p><p>Krill-soldier.jpg</p><p></gallery></p><p>
</p><p>1. Krill at service (including both males and females (including Telaya, the most prolific Krill character), as well as "Chris and Devon").</p><p>2. Complete Krill audience. Pro: Most diverse (features both genders, both soldiers and religious officials, and notable characters. Con: Perhaps this gathering may be too large.</p><p>3. Promotional image of High Priest Sazeron and Captain Haros. Pro: Features two notable characters with distinct positions. Con: No Telaya.</p><p>4. Krill captain and two soldiers as seen in 2x04. Pro: A fine representation of the Krill as "bad guys". Con: No Telaya, and perhaps it would not do ''The Orville'' justice to want to present the Krill as simply "baddies". </p><p>5. The Krill soldier in the shuttle from ''Old Wounds''. (Represents a single individual as with the current state of the human, Moclan and Xelayan articles.)</p><p>
</p><p>In any case, some of these candidate images would fit well on their respective pages should they be deemed unworthy of the infobox.</p><p>
</p><p>NOTE: Though a major species, Kaylon are as yet only represented by Isaac. However, as we may well be visiting the planet later on in Season 2, we may potentially have a new image for the Kaylon on our hands as well.</p>
(Edited by MrThermomanPreacher)
<p>The Kobali are one of the most technologically advanced species in charted space, and like the Calivon, view those around them as physically and mentally inferior. Because of that, other species find the Kobali to be equally condescending and a-moral like the Calivon. However, the Kobali do treat other advanced species as moral equals, such as the Kaylon and the Calivon.</p><p>
</p><p>The Kobali are a humanoid species from the planet Kobali III. They outwardly resembled very attractive humans with blonde hair, but their blood chemistry is cobalt(II) oxide-aluminium oxide, or cobalt(II) aluminate, CoAl2O4 and have a six-lobed brain and a binary cardiovascular system instead of a singular cardiovascular system.</p><p>
</p><p>Kobali III (picture below)</p>
</p><p>The Kobali are a humanoid species from the planet Kobali III. They outwardly resembled very attractive humans with blonde hair, but their blood chemistry is cobalt(II) oxide-aluminium oxide, or cobalt(II) aluminate, CoAl2O4 and have a six-lobed brain and a binary cardiovascular system instead of a singular cardiovascular system.</p><p>
</p><p>Kobali III (picture below)</p>
<p>Inspired by Wookieepedia's use of ogg. audio files, I propose that [[Template:Quote]] be modified with the option to attach an audio file. I have already made a handful of Orville quote files and, if accepted, would upload them to be used here. I have found that such a modification could easily be applied to the current revision of the Template, indeed, I have already made a sucessful test on another Wiki.</p>
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<p>Hello, </p><p>
</p><p>Me and my fellow Administrator UnionPointDropout appear to be in the middle of a disagreement over if the Navarian and Bruidian ambassadors (who appeared in the episode Cupid's Dagger) warrant their own designated Wiki pages or not. </p><p>
</p><p>A lot of arguments have been presented by both of us the last few days in this discussion thread, with UnionPointDropout supporting their creation and me opposing them. After days of debate it seems like the two of us are at an impasse for how to proceed here and wish to give the community a chance to weigh in and, if possible, help form a potential compromise </p><p>
</p><p>It is strongly advised one reads myself and UnionPointDropout's discussion before contributing to this Consensus, in order to get an understanding of both of our arguments and positions. In addition, we emphasize dialogue over votes. Let's try to keep this Consensus a forward thinking discussion as opposed to simply "yes" or "no" vote. </p><p>
</p><p>Thank you. </p>
</p><p>Me and my fellow Administrator UnionPointDropout appear to be in the middle of a disagreement over if the Navarian and Bruidian ambassadors (who appeared in the episode Cupid's Dagger) warrant their own designated Wiki pages or not. </p><p>
</p><p>A lot of arguments have been presented by both of us the last few days in this discussion thread, with UnionPointDropout supporting their creation and me opposing them. After days of debate it seems like the two of us are at an impasse for how to proceed here and wish to give the community a chance to weigh in and, if possible, help form a potential compromise </p><p>
</p><p>It is strongly advised one reads myself and UnionPointDropout's discussion before contributing to this Consensus, in order to get an understanding of both of our arguments and positions. In addition, we emphasize dialogue over votes. Let's try to keep this Consensus a forward thinking discussion as opposed to simply "yes" or "no" vote. </p><p>
</p><p>Thank you. </p>
Hello,
I'd like to update the General Guidelines with some policies regarding News Reporting. I've written up a draft in my sandbox (link below) about how it could possibly look.
Before it can be added though I'd like to get community approval and start a discussion if anything else should be added, redacted, etc, or if the draft is perfect as is.
Thank you.
(Edited by Blizzard1289)
Hello,
Something I've noticed is that the Orville Wiki has a lot of redlinks for minor cast member pages, especially all over our episodes articles. Trying to tackle this has lead to further problems of the Wiki gaining a significant amount of stub pages as a response to this. Overall, our current system for dealing with minor cast members doesn't seem to be very sustainable for one reason or another.
I propose a solution.
On episode articles, instead of hyperlinking the name of a minor cast member (someone who plays an unnamed character), we instead simply plug in their IMDb page. That has all the information users wanting to research the actors could ever want, and is laid out in a way that would likely be better than anything we could draw up. It would also serve to reduce the amount of redlinks editors are pressured to get rid of and would tone down on the amount of "short pages" on the Wiki.
I've already tested my proposed method out on the If the Stars Should Appear page.
What do you say, community? If this passes I will make the necessary changes to the Manual of Style.
(Edited by Blizzard1289)
Adding a notes section to your page is a great way to add circumstantial information a neat way that won't clog up your references. To add notes to a page, open the page in Source editing. For the notes section at the base, put:
==Notes==
<references group="n" />
The fastest way to add notes is to go ahead and add notes as you would with references by clicking the Reference button in edit mode. Then, in Source edit, change the reference tag <ref> to <ref group="n">.
If you have a lot of them, it's easier to just copy past.
Not sure if this is the right place to put this, but it's something I want to mention/talk about.
I've noticed that a lot of the show's crew are being given the "Cast" infobox. Now it's great that we're adding more info to their pages, but might it be better to rework this info box to reflect who they're given info about?
First off they're not cast, they're crew.
Secondly, I doubt their first and last appearances need to be tracked since they're behind the scenes people. We could have a section in the person's article saying which episodes they worked on, and doing what.
I've also noticed that there's an Actor infobox. All-in-all great, but it needs to have the IMDB and Wikipedia fields like the Crew infobox above does, so the actors' pages have the same info/links available as the crew that we've been adding.
Also, in the "cast" infobox, the imdb_id needed is just the numbers in the link, and the wikipedia item just needs the name of the article.
Using Robert Duncan McNeill as an example, his imdb link is: imdb.com/name/nm0000536 so his imdb_id is 0000536
For his wikipedia page, the link is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Duncan_McNeill
but the infobox only requires the last section: Robert_Duncan_McNeill
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Hello,
I would like to propose that UnionPointDropout, a current Content Moderator for the Wiki, be promoted to Administrator.
UnionPointDropout has done huge amounts of edits in the past. Some of his notable deeds include fleshing out pages like John LaMarr and Bortus, he has also written extensive summaries for all of the current episodes in the series. He frequently posts news articles and the latest information available for Season 2 in addition to helping advertise alongside our official account on Twitter.
There was a discussion weeks ago about granting Administrator tools that ultimately failed due to a few areas UnionPointDropout still needed to work on. However, I'm happy to say in this time he has made excellent improvements. He constantly responds to his talk page messages, rarely (if ever) redlinks unnecessary pages anymore, frequently participates in community discussions, and even when he occasionally does make mistakes handles them maturely and without any issues.
I think he's ready to receive Administrator tools if the community agrees with my sentiments.
Let's talk.
(Edited by Blizzard1289)
Hello Orvillians!
It's the off season and, as to be expected, Wiki activity has slowed to a crawl. I'm not trying to guilt anyone to contributing more than usual, the active contributors have been pulling their weight. Instead, I'd like to talk about doing more to get the Wiki's name out there via Social Media.
The idea is The Orville Wiki could have an Official Twitter Account. I'd set it up and ultimately be the one to operate it. We could use it to advertise featured articles, interact with fans, cast, etc. Social Media is the way of the future and I think we'd be able to build a larger, more substantial following if we could expose our content to more people.
What do you think?
Does anyone have any comments, questions, or concerns with what's been stated here?
(Edited by Blizzard1289)
Hello, I have noticed that the way we do character history is different to other wikias. It works for now, where we describe what happened for each character (on their page) in every episode but what about later when there are 3-4 seasons and/or more characters? Should we maybe change the way we post things and write all that info on the episode's page and not the characters'?
